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* Oral traditions
 
* Oral traditions
  
== Evidence of the Triskelion ==
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== Evidence of the Legged Triskelion ==
 
=== On the Isle of Man ===
 
=== On the Isle of Man ===
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* The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Man flag of the Isle of Man] features a triskelion; it was adopted in 1932.
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* The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Isle_of_Man Coat of Arms of the Isle of Man] appears in multiple rolls including the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden_Roll Camden roll] believed to have been created ca 1280.
  
 
=== In the Skancke family ===
 
=== In the Skancke family ===
 
The name "Skancke" means "leg" or "shank". Whether it's singular or plural is debatable; in contemporary Danish, it's a plural.
 
The name "Skancke" means "leg" or "shank". Whether it's singular or plural is debatable; in contemporary Danish, it's a plural.
  
The most commonly seen coat of arms for the Skancke family has a single leg. (Cites needed). The examples seen with three legs are: (cites needed)
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The most commonly seen coat of arms for the Skancke family has a single leg, often wearing armor (as quoted from the Noregian Wikipedia). The examples seen with three legs are:
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* [https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iver_Hirtzholm Iver Hirtzholm]'s book of arms (1670ish), claiming as its source a letter from 1303 related to Erling Amundsen. The legs here are bare.
  
 
=== Elsewhere ===
 
=== Elsewhere ===
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* The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Sicily Flag of Sicily] has a triskelion of bare legs and a gorgon. Pliny the Elder (AD 23-79) mentions this symbol and relates it to the shape of the island.
  
 
== Evidence of traditions ==
 
== Evidence of traditions ==
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=== P. A. Munch ===
 
=== P. A. Munch ===
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== Popular sources ==
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These are non-authoritative; the interesting part is where they claim to have information from.
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanke_(noble_family) Wikipedia (English)]
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* [https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanke] Wikipedia (Norwegian)]

Revision as of 02:09, 18 April 2016

This page is created based on a debate in the Geni discussion fora about the relationship (or lack of proof thereof) between the following historical persons:

The claim being made is that Harald was the father of Torlack, who was the father of Hallstein. The counterclaim is that there isn't enough evidence available to support either of those linkages.

The arguments being cited are:

  • Use of the Triskelion (three legs joined at the hip) by both the Skancke family and the kingdom of Man
  • Matching dates
  • Oral traditions

Contents

Evidence of the Legged Triskelion

On the Isle of Man

In the Skancke family

The name "Skancke" means "leg" or "shank". Whether it's singular or plural is debatable; in contemporary Danish, it's a plural.

The most commonly seen coat of arms for the Skancke family has a single leg, often wearing armor (as quoted from the Noregian Wikipedia). The examples seen with three legs are:

  • Iver Hirtzholm's book of arms (1670ish), claiming as its source a letter from 1303 related to Erling Amundsen. The legs here are bare.

Elsewhere

  • The Flag of Sicily has a triskelion of bare legs and a gorgon. Pliny the Elder (AD 23-79) mentions this symbol and relates it to the shape of the island.

Evidence of traditions

Authorities cited

G. V. C (Barney) Young

P. A. Munch

Popular sources

These are non-authoritative; the interesting part is where they claim to have information from.

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