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= Project Members =
 
= Project Members =
* [http://www.geni.com/people/Anne-Marit-Berge/6000000001040371607 Anne Marit B]
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* [http://www.geni.com/profile/index/6000000001040371607 Anne Marit]
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* [http://www.geni.com/profile/index/6000000001724518898 Pam]
  
 
= Family Group Permissions =
 
= Family Group Permissions =
  
 
= Naming Conventions =
 
= Naming Conventions =
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See generic '''[[Naming Conventions]]''' page.
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* Main principle: Name as close to original name as possible, language, geography and time period to be taken into consideration
 
* Main principle: Name as close to original name as possible, language, geography and time period to be taken into consideration
 
** French names for French people (thus: Richard I 'Sans-Peur' de Normandie, not Richard I 'the Fearless' of Normandy)
 
** French names for French people (thus: Richard I 'Sans-Peur' de Normandie, not Richard I 'the Fearless' of Normandy)
** Titles usually go in the Last Name field
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** Titles usually go in the Suffix field
** Additional titles in Work with year frame
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** Additional titles in Work (Occupation) with year frame
** Adjust First Name field to avoid misunderstandings or mistaken identity where necessary, by adding order/number or byname.
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** Adjust First Name field to avoid misunderstandings or mistaken identity where necessary, by adding order/number (I, II, IV, etc.) and/or byname (sobriquet)in quote marks.
** Patronymics in the Middle Name field if applicable
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** Patronymics (e.g., FitzRichard) may go in the Middle Name field if there is a place-based name for the last name field; otherwise, they may be put in the Last Name field
** Maiden Names are normally avoided as there were none at the time
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** Maiden Names are normally not needed as there were none at the time; this field can be used for alternate name information as needed, for men or for women
** All names a person is known by in any source listed in Nicknames: bynames (especially in English), additional titles, variations.
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** All names a person is known by in any source should be listed in Nicknames (think "Also Known As"): bynames (especially in English), additional titles, variations..
  
 
= Main Sources =
 
= Main Sources =
The Foundation of Medieval Genealogy has an extensive overview, based solely on primary sources, which should be used as our first source:  
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The Foundation of Medieval Genealogy's Medieval Lands Database, by Charles Cawley has an extensive overview, based solely on primary sources, which should be used as our first source:  
 
* [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm Dukes of Normandy]
 
* [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm Dukes of Normandy]
 
* [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm Norman nobility]
 
* [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm Norman nobility]
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Other excellent sources for medieval research include works by contemporary scholars in the field such as Katherine Keats-Rohan and Christian Settipani, and excellent scholarly discussions on various family lineages (and the controversies surrounding interpretations of relationships) may be found in the archives of the soc.gen.medieval or GEN-MEDIEVAL list.
  
 
= Notes =
 
= Notes =

Latest revision as of 04:32, 1 February 2011

This is a Merge Project page.

Central Profiles

Extent of Project and Cross-Over Profiles

See above.

Anglo Saxon Kings Merge and Viking and Nordic Ancestry Merge

  • Emma de Normandie, also called Ælfgifu (!) of Normandy, daughter of Richard I 'sans peur' de Normandie and Gunnor (Gunnora) de Crépon.

Married 1. Æthelred the Unready, three children:

   * Godgifu (Goda)
   * Edward the Confessor
   * Alfred Aetheling

Married 2. Canute the Great, two children:

   * Harthacanute
   * Gunhilda of Denmark

Project Members

Family Group Permissions

Naming Conventions

See generic Naming Conventions page.

  • Main principle: Name as close to original name as possible, language, geography and time period to be taken into consideration
    • French names for French people (thus: Richard I 'Sans-Peur' de Normandie, not Richard I 'the Fearless' of Normandy)
    • Titles usually go in the Suffix field
    • Additional titles in Work (Occupation) with year frame
    • Adjust First Name field to avoid misunderstandings or mistaken identity where necessary, by adding order/number (I, II, IV, etc.) and/or byname (sobriquet)in quote marks.
    • Patronymics (e.g., FitzRichard) may go in the Middle Name field if there is a place-based name for the last name field; otherwise, they may be put in the Last Name field
    • Maiden Names are normally not needed as there were none at the time; this field can be used for alternate name information as needed, for men or for women
    • All names a person is known by in any source should be listed in Nicknames (think "Also Known As"): bynames (especially in English), additional titles, variations..

Main Sources

The Foundation of Medieval Genealogy's Medieval Lands Database, by Charles Cawley has an extensive overview, based solely on primary sources, which should be used as our first source:

Other excellent sources for medieval research include works by contemporary scholars in the field such as Katherine Keats-Rohan and Christian Settipani, and excellent scholarly discussions on various family lineages (and the controversies surrounding interpretations of relationships) may be found in the archives of the soc.gen.medieval or GEN-MEDIEVAL list.

Notes

Problem areas and potential mix-ups

Some people have identical or very similar names and we must be careful not to confuse them in merges:

Arlette Herlève Havliva Herleva Harletta Harlette

There are two women using varations of these names:

Doda

  • Doda de Falaise should not be confused with the Scottish Donada, daughter of Malcolm II MacKenneth. Doda de Falaise's parents were French.

EMMA

There are many Norman females of this name that should not be mixed up - study all connections before merging.

  • Emma Capet
  • Emma de Blois
  • Emma de Normandie
  • Emma de France, daughter of Robert I de France and Béatrice de Vermandois, she married Raoul de Bourgogne, they had one son who died an infant.
  • Emma de Provence, daughter of Rotbold III de Provence and Ermengarda, she married William III de Toulouse, they had four children:
   * Pons, who succeeded to Toulouse
   * Bertrand, who succeeded Pons in Toulouse (1060) and his mother in Provence
   * Ildegarda Elisa, wife of Fulk/Foulques Bertrand de Provence
   * Rangarda, wife of Peter Raymond de Carcassonne

List of duplicate copies

Connected to the Big-Tree:

NOT connected to the Big-Tree:

(Do not merge with either of those yet - detangle the existing chaos first.)

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