Frantz Frantzen Flor

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This page is a notepad to collect links and theories about Franz Franzen Flor that are not well-documented enough to enter on his profile.

Frantz Frantzen Flor

Geni link: http://www.geni.com/people/Frantz-Frantzen-Flor/6000000000130011547

The question is: Who were his parents?

This page advances a theory that they were of English nobility: http://mypages.allwest.com/~rognan/genealogy/pafg2100.htm#54081 - the parents are Francis/Francisco Flor/Florentius and Elisabeth Brokesby.

The author is Bruce Rognan. A dissertation with even more fanciful theories is here: http://www.brucerognan.com/DISSERTATION%20-%20Pedigree%20200BC-2000-Combined.pdf

He was born 1510-20 and died 1582-84.

Frantz was the parish priest (Norwegian: sogneprest) in Nannestad from 1556 to 1582 - said to be the first Protestant parish priest. It's possible that he was the catholic parish priest before that - we don't know who was, and the reformation was introduced by royal decree in 1536; Olav Engelbrektsson was forced out of the counry in 1537. Many clergy changed affiliation; Franz' bishop was probably Hans Reff (or Rev), catholic bishop in Oslo 1525-37, subsequently luthersk superintendent for the merged Oslo/Hamar stift 1541-45.

There's an existing article in a well-renowned journal that is NOT available online: Norsk Slektshistorisk Tidsskrift bind XXXVIII, hefte 1, Oslo 2001. side 3-4, 5-15, 16-35 Slekta Flor fra Firenze.

Frants Frantssøn Flor / Frans Italus, sokneprest i Nannestad

He is written about in "Den Norske Kirkes Geistlighet i Reformations-Århundret", published 1897 (side 54), tilgjengelig fra Google Books: https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=zdBAAAAAYAAJ&rdid=book-zdBAAAAAYAAJ&rdot=1

Han finnes på www.nermo.org sine slektssider, lenken er ustabil, men er september 2012 http://www.nermo.org/slekt/d0007/g0000055.html#I18373 - Nermo gives no parents.

There's a long essay about him as an "user supplied tree" på familysearch org:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S1DS-SLL

Discussion at DIS Norge: http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=78097

Theory here: Foreldre til Frants Frantsen : Francisco Florentius f. ca 1490 i Italia/ gift ca. 1521 med: Lucrezia f. ca 1494 Italia. ( ikke pikenavn på henne). Morens navn er utledet av at en av hans barn ble kalt Lucrezia.

Contacted:

  • Trond Høy (Geni admin) - no information (have asked him twice)
  • Bruce Rognan (rognan@allwest.net)
  • Email to all administrators of Elisabeth Brokesby (purported mother) - 2012-10-15
  • Email to all administrator of Frantz' profile - 2012-09-29 (just Trond Høy answered)
  • Discussion attached to Frantz' profile - http://www.geni.com/discussions/113967

Action:

On Oct 17, 2012, I cut his parents off and replaced them with placeholder profiles named "Frantz ukjent far" og "Lucretzia ukjent mor".

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